MSNBC "The Ed Show" - Transcript: Charlie Hebdo Shooting
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SCHULTZ: The attacks on the journalist in Paris came with no warning. It leaves not
only France but the world on edge because of the bold nature of the attack.
Let me bring in Congressman Tim Ryan of Ohio, a member of the House Armed
Services Committee. Congressman, certainly not the subject we want to talk
about but also we have to shed light on the fact that this may give us
pause as to just how vulnerable we are in an open and free society. What
is the reaction on Capitol Hill tonight Congressman? What`s the
conversation amongst your colleagues?
REP. TIM RYAN, (D) OHIO: Well, I think it`s worrisome, you know, in many
ways from the security point of view. This is something that can -- it`s
been out of control. I mean, here you have these small cells, small groups
of people, three, four, five, organizing themselves to create a terrorists
attack big or small. You know, maybe not thousands of people but tens of
people and that can happen almost anywhere and any part of our society
especially in the west.
And, so it`s very, very worrisome I think for many people here on Capitol
Hill and obviously a tragedy for so many families and a tragedy for a great
ally of ours.
SCHULTZ: What assistance do you think the United States can provide to
France in this situation Congressman?
RYAN: Well, you know, I think a lot of that has to be through the
intelligence community. From a couple of the reports that I heard, there
were other potential attacks like this in France that were disrupted
because of the intelligence. So, I think, you know, we need to make sure
that we`re learning from what happened in this scenario and what we can do
to maybe help the French.
Maybe something slipped to the cracks and why did that happen and so, using
our expertise and the intelligence community and also Homeland Security to
help them better understand what happened in this particular instance but
also be prepared for things that may happen in the future.
SCHULTZ: Congressman when you see this video tape as horrific as it is,
what do you think? What is it tell you? I mean, it looks organized, it
looks planned. There was a sense of calm among these guys who did this.
It seemed like they knew exactly what they were going to do and how they
were going to do it and there would be no resistance.
RYAN: Yes, what really instruct me too this wasn`t a suicide bomber, you
know, this wasn`t someone with a vest on that was going to walk in and take
their own lives. These are people who clearly planned this out in an
organize way. And then got into a car and drove away.
So they clearly want to do it again. So, I think we`re moving in to some
new territory here where it`s not, we`re going to fly planes into a
building or we`re going strap a bomb to our chest and pull it in an open
area or open market like it happens a lot in certain countries. This is
someone who`s planning an attack. They want to execute it and they want to
survive and go off and I think this is some new territory for us to be in.
SCHULTZ: Well that is a very profound point to be made. I mean, could
this be the start of a way of a new type of terror around the globe, that
it`s not going to be airplanes flying into buildings. It`s going to be
attacks like this which clearly are on minds of every soul on the planet.
RYAN: Right, and I don`t think it`s just, you know, it`s -- yeah, it`s a
horrific act but I think, you know, you look at the European economy for
example, you know, these smaller attacks in retail places of business could
ultimately have an economic impact as well as we saw after 9/11 here on the
United States. It had a major impact on what was happening economically.
So, they`re getting a multiple benefit from their advantage point of these
small scale attacks. It provides a good deal of terror throughout society
but also has economic impact as well.
SCHULTZ: Congressman Tim Ryan of Ohio, good to have you with us tonight.
Thank you sir, I appreciate it.
RYAN: Take care, Ed.
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