Fox News "Hannity" - Transcript: Interview with Sen. Lindsey Graham
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Anyway, the president in Iowa today going after Joe Biden's record which is atrocious along with Barack Obama.
Here with reaction to all this and more, Senate Judiciary Committee chairman -- you know, he just cracks me up -- Lindsey Graham is with us.
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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, R-S.C.: I would take No Doze.
HANNITY: Joe Biden is not ready for this fight.
GRAHAM: Yes, going to be fun.
HANNITY: Let me ask you what we talked about in the last segment, and that is the deputy attorney general's letter yesterday. The new developments by Judicial Watch tonight, the seriousness of which this has taken over here.
GRAHAM: Right. So Horowitz will be coming out soon, I hope, with his internal review of the FISA warrant application, whether or not the court was defrauded by the Department of Justice and the FBI. Durham is going to look at all things criminal. He's on the case.
The collusion narrative has died with the Mueller report. The corruption narrative is growing by every day when you find more e-mails like you had tonight.
HANNITY: I often refer to your questioning of the attorney general about Mueller, about the investigation into Hillary, about FISA abuse, the origins -- he gave you all the answers. Now it appears he's implementing what seems to be an exhaustive top to bottom investigation into all things serious.
Do you believe when he talks about intelligence, the deputy attorney general in that letter that he is referring to the possibility of outsourced intelligence gathering to circumvent American law?
GRAHAM: Maybe so. Maybe getting foreign governments to do things that we can do, which every American should be concerned about.
Every American should be concerned about whether or not the FISA court, which is a secret court, was lied to about the source of information to use to gather a warrant. Every American should be worried whether or not our government tried to get a foreign government to do things that we're prohibited doing by law. So, yes, I think he's very much on the case.
HANNITY: Senate, based on what we know now, closed door testimony of Bruce Ohr, August 2016, he warned everybody, Christopher Steele's motives. It's not verified. Hillary paid for it.
Then the State Department meeting, the one Kathleen Kavalec --
GRAHAM: Right.
HANNITY: -- two weeks before the first FISA application. Staunch warning: Don't trust this guy. He's has a political agenda. Comey signed the first FISA application.
Now, we now know it's an unverifiable document and not even its own author stands by it.
How is that not a premeditated fraud on the FISA court, not just to take away the civil liberties of Carter Page but a back door into the Trump campaign presidency?
GRAHAM: I can only imagine if the names were changed and this was about Republicans doing what you just described to a Democrat, it would be front page news all over the world. And the only place you can find it is pretty much on your show and a few other shows. So, I don't know how we get around the fact that Comey tells the President in January 2017, "Here's the dossier."
HANNITY: Unverified.
GRAHAM: Unverified. And that same document was the reason a warrant was issued four times and under oath, Comey tells the FISA court, it is reliable enough to get a warrant. So I don't know how you square that circle, but that's why we have Horowitz and that's what my Committee will be looking at.
HANNITY: Senator, you said - is there not, at this point, incontrovertible evidence that it was - if it's unverifiable--
GRAHAM: Right.
HANNITY: --and it is the bulk of the dossier--
GRAHAM: To this day.
HANNITY: What is in a Grassley/Graham memo--
GRAHAM: Right.
HANNITY: --and it is the bulk of information that that is a premeditated fraud against the court, how is it anything else? Give me any possible theory.
GRAHAM: All I can tell you for sure is that we know that Steele went to the State Department, trying to get the State Department to release the dossier before the election because they wanted Trump to lose, and the State Department told the FBI about this encounter ten days before they sought a warrant. We know in August, as you said before, Ohr tells the state of the FBI and DOJ, you got to watch Steele, he's out to get Trump. I don't know how you explain all this stuff other than it's just a fraud on the court, a political agenda by Steele.
HANNITY: Well, Senator, what if I did this? What would happen to me?
GRAHAM: You wouldn't have a show.
HANNITY: Would I not have a show? Would I be living in a different place?
GRAHAM: I would not be playing golf with you anytime soon.
HANNITY: Ever again.
GRAHAM: Ever again.
HANNITY: By the way, now my back is better, not when I wanted it to be good.
GRAHAM: Good. We'll do it again.
HANNITY: All right. Let me ask you on your end, because now we have Durham, we have got Horowitz.
GRAHAM: Right.
HANNITY: We've got John Hoover.
GRAHAM: Right.
HANNITY: We got the Attorney General.
GRAHAM: Right.
HANNITY: Durham and we also have your Committee, which will be leading in all of these investigations. How deep and how far will you go back? Because to me, if we have equal justice and application of our laws, it has to be in the beginning.
GRAHAM: Well, you got to find out how the Clinton investigation began and how it ended was a political (ph) result.
HANNITY: You think it was rigged?
GRAHAM: Well, I think it's pretty clear to me that if you want her to win, you can't indict here. The main reason she wasn't charged with a crime is because people investigating her wanted Trump to lose and her to win. Yes, that's what I think.
HANNITY: 100 million to zero, isn't that true?
GRAHAM: Yes. That's a lot.
HANNITY: And aren't the people that were voting for Donald Trump smelly Walmart shoppers, like me?
GRAHAM: These are the - but the same people did the Clinton e-mail investigation did the counter intelligence investigation, got the warrant. They're all the same people.
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